MyDD :: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama

Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama

by Newcomer, Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 12:59:12 AM EST

Several have commented, but I have not seen a diary focusing on HRC's comments about elitism and Gore/Kerry. I bring them here to highlight a point about the differences between HRC and BHO.

Politico has the note: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0 408/Clinton_Out_of_touch_and_like_Gore.h tml

First Clinton. At the Compassion Forum this evening, in a disturbing attempt to paint Obama as elitist, she brings up the previous election cycles of Gore and Kerry.

"We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for president in 2000 and 2004," she said. "Large segments of the electorate concluded that they did not really understand, or relate to, or respect their ways of life."

Wow. She takes a swipe at Gore and Kerry in order to propagate her own talking point about Obama. Sounds an awful lot like the typical Republican talking points...and it feeds DIRECTLY into the Republican attack machine that has been waged against Dems since WJC ran in 1992. And dont think The Clintons are immune to the right-wing 'elitism' slam. Why on earth would she do that?

Now...how does Obama respond:

"Al Gore was mentioned earlier. I think Al Gore won," Obama said.

Now that is a Democratic talking point. Gore won.

Does HRC even remember which side she is on anymore - or has her tunnel vision propelled her to a point where she can no longer distinguish the good from the bad...the blue from the red, as it were. Her alignment with the McCain camp is equally distressing. She is attacking Obama ALONGSIDE McCain. Will she ever stop?

I can tell you one thing...that Gore endorsement just got a little closer.

Tags: Clinton, obama, gore, kerry (all tags)

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Re: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 3)

I'm starting to see why Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter have endorsed Hillary.

She's far more effective at delivering GOP talking points than McCain.

by smoothmedia on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:10:28 AM EST

Re: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

Both Gore and Carter have said they will not endorse before the convention. I take them at their words. if you are counting on some revenge endorsement from Gore then you have not been paying attention to the man. And if you don't realize the kernel of truth in what Hillary said then you don't remember Gore's run for the presidency very wel, especially his mid campaign make-over. (shudder, flannel shirts still scare me)

here is what Carter said this morning:

In an interview that aired Sunday on ABC News' "This Week," Carter said he will not endorse a candidate until the Democratic convention in August.

"The only thing I know is that, I have not made an endorsement, and don't intend to, until the time of the convention, but so far as I know, all my children and grandchildren are supporting Obama," Carter said. "I got permission, by the way, from my children and grandchildren, and their spouses, to reveal their intention. I haven't yet revealed what my intention is directly, or my wife."

The former president also said that superdelegates should be free to endorse whomever they feel is best able to lead -- regardless of the popular choice in the caucuses and primary contests.

"Any superdelegate who wishes to deviate from that opinion should be perfectly free to do so," Carter said. "My hometown, my county, my state went overwhelmingly for Obama. But if I decided later on to support Mrs. Clinton, I would feel free to do so."

by americanincanada on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:12:27 AM EST

Re: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

A kernel of truth...sure I will concede a kernel.

But you miss the point (probably b/c you dont want to find it). HRC is taking Republican talking points and trying to use them against Obama. And she is claiming Gore lost (He did not.) And what does this even mean:

"they [some parts of the electorate] did not really understand, or relate to, or respect their ways of life"

Their 'ways of life'? C'mon - how do you think that is gonna play on the right wing?

She is off the deep end here, completely. How are the Clinton's 'ways of life' so much more in tune with this demographic?

We don't need a thinker. We need a doer: someone who'll act without considering the consequences. (H.J. Simpson)

by Newcomer on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:17:55 AM EST
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She's had servants since she was in her 20s. More sounding boards I guess.

by Mostly on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 05:00:32 AM EST
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This whole manufactured (2.00 / 1)

controversy is a joke.

by SocialDem on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:12:34 AM EST

Re: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

Clinton did not state that Gore or Kerry for that matter lost their presidential bids.

And frankly, I agree with her assessment and if Gore endorses Obama, so be it. Same goes with Carter, Pelosi, Brazile, Dean, and the gang.

by Liberty on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:12:53 AM EST

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So you are basically admitting that Hillary is not a democrat... because apparently it's ok to throw the entire party under the bus

by CaptMorgan on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:09:32 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

I've known for awhile that Hillary is in the DLC. And I knew that was a bad thing. But only recently did I realize just HOW bad. Apparently the DLC is nothing more than a Trojan horse for the Republicans. Hopefully after Obama (and a bunch of other progressive Dems) take office in January, one of their first orders of business will be to get the DLC out of our party.

by ratmach on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 04:37:19 AM EST
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Yes HRC is a republican. Talk about a BO talking point. I guess this is the new democratic party where 49% are told they are really republicans. Dude are you serious. NONSENSE.

And you wonder why HRC supporters get tried of BO and his supporters whinning. HRC is a racist. HRC is a liar. HRC is a republican. WHATEVER.

david

by giusd on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:14:31 AM EST

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Um she just called Al Gore an out of touch elitist. That's a damn republican talking point. She should freaking apologize

by CaptMorgan on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:45:21 AM EST
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She didn't call Gore an elitist (none / 0)

She was talking about the meme that he got pegged with by the wing-nuts that helped Bush in the 2000 election.

Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!

by aurelius on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:29:39 AM EST
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Re: She didn't call Gore an elitist (none / 0)

Dont be naive.

She raises it...people think about it...they attach it to Obama.
This is what Repubs do.

I never said she was as Repub. I said she sounds like one. There is (still) a difference and I she is still a democrat, as far as I know.

We don't need a thinker. We need a doer: someone who'll act without considering the consequences. (H.J. Simpson)

by Newcomer on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:09:32 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

Hey for Obama who claims he is not your typical politician ,

I bet who couldn't handle the truth in what Clinton said.

Hey he pandered like his bowling attempt in shirt and tie in altoona .

Whats new ?

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:16:05 AM EST

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Nothing is new lori, the same stuff as the past two election cycles as the Republican nominee will once again snag the conservative/moderate, working class, blue collar Democratics if Obama is the nominee. Same stuff....

by Liberty on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:20:45 AM EST
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One good thing to come from this...as Hillary makes these claims aligning herself with McCain in a bipartisan attack (she does cross the aisle!) - she at least get this out in the open now so that it will be old news (if BHO is the nominee) when the GE comes along. And of course if she is the nominee the same goes for her. Surely you dont think that the Clintons are somehow above the conservative attack on Dems as elite? So maybe we should be thanking her?

We don't need a thinker. We need a doer: someone who'll act without considering the consequences. (H.J. Simpson)

by Newcomer on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:39:21 AM EST
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No, we should be praying to the political gods that at the Denver convention the superdelegates swing her way so we have a shot at beating McCain.

by Liberty on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:55:29 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 0)

And then all the young people and black people stay home and never vote Democratic again. Great plan.

by elrod on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:01:47 AM EST
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Yes elrod, the African American community and the young people are of a greater value to the Democratic party according to Obama supporters.
I understand your the position.

by Liberty on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:10:49 AM EST
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Shall we discuss pandering?
Doing shots with a beer back? Yeah that is HRC.
Grandaddy's little hunter? Yeah that is HRC.

Obama actually made fun of himself while bowling...turns out HRC aint so good at it herself (and there is an alley in the WH!).

We do need a new direction. This old one is really worn out.

We don't need a thinker. We need a doer: someone who'll act without considering the consequences. (H.J. Simpson)

by Newcomer on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:23:26 AM EST
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Obama actually made fun of himself while bowling...

- What else could he have done ? Everyone else did lol.

.....turns out HRC aint so good at it herself (and there is an alley in the WH!).

- Hey so she bowls lady on a show dedicated to woman, who woulda thought.

I would say it made her even look better.

Can't say that about Obama , he didn't look too good bowling like a lady.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:04:34 AM EST
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* like a lady

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:05:12 AM EST
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"he didn't look too good bowling like a lady."

Holy shit that's sexist. I thought you were one of the more rational posters here.

And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.

by thatpurplestuff on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 04:12:44 AM EST
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i'd rather a panderer (none / 0)

than someone who doesn't pander. Pandering wins elections. Being wooden and elite like Kerry and Gore doesn't. Or well, in Gore's case, doesn't get you past the electoral theft threshhold.

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:35:02 AM EST
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Gosh, Gore is not God. Without Mr. Clinton, there would be NO Al Gore. Al Gore, IMHO, is just one of that long list of those losing democratic candidates.

It's no secret Nancy, Jimmy, Gore are sided with Barak. Nobody cares who these losers endorse. LOL.

by prisonbreak on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:17:23 AM EST

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It's no secret Nancy, Jimmy, Gore are sided with Barak. Nobody cares who these losers endorse.

So now Carter, Gore, and Pelosi are losers?

We don't need a thinker. We need a doer: someone who'll act without considering the consequences. (H.J. Simpson)

by Newcomer on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:20:28 AM EST
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"So now Carter, Gore, and Pelosi are losers?"

Meatloaf made reference to this in a song back in the 70s.

2 outta 3 ain't bad.

by reggie44pride on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:52:41 AM EST
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tell that to Dkos (none / 0)

and they will tell you how great a candidate Gore woulda been in 92 or 96, forgetting how he FLOUNDERED in 1988. What gets me is how they love Gore, yet he was more DLC and New Democrat than Bill Clinton was. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/13/ 225534/511 read some of the posts, and they are absolutely ridiculous. They bring up the Perot myth, and think that because Kerry had a higher raw vote total than Clinton made him a better candidate. AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:34:02 AM EST
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Ummmmmm....
Yes Gore won narrowly which is why it was easy for Republicans shenanigans to shave off the few votes needed to flip the results in Bush's favor. If Gore won by wider margins from people who voted for Bush because they thought he was more folksy and down to earth, the GOP wouldn't have been successful in their attempt to steal the election.

Also both Gore and Kerry were painted by the electorate as being elitist and condescending even though both men were far more concerned and in touch with the problems of blue collar workers than Bush. Hillary wasn't in any way implying or saying that Kerry or Gore were elitist just that they spoke in a manner that gave voters that wrong impression.

It doesn't matter what Obama really meant, if voters begin to perceive him as a latte liberal, he might win the primary but he will tank in the general.

Jon Winkleman

by Jon Winkleman on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:17:42 AM EST

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"Also both Gore and Kerry were painted by the electorate as being elitist and condescending"

They were painted by the Repubs. and the electorate took the bait...But no matter who the nominee is - it will come back again. So why does HRC think that she is above it?

We don't need a thinker. We need a doer: someone who'll act without considering the consequences. (H.J. Simpson)

by Newcomer on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:41:52 AM EST
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I wish the losers at DKos could actually see (none / 0)

that. But they can't. They think Hillary was insulting them. I'll show you the link to their article, their little Clinton-hating hissy fit, saying Kerry and Gore were better candidates than Clinton because they got higher raw vote totals. Dkos bloggers=/=logic. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/13/ 225534/511

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:32:13 AM EST
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so now gole is bad as well, great DEMOCRATIC site, anything clinton says is true

by nj49ers83 on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:20:16 AM EST

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gore i mean

by nj49ers83 on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 01:20:37 AM EST

Pandering (2.00 / 2)

What galls me about this is that Clinton is shamelessly suggesting to the superdelegates that Obama will be painted as an elitist by the GOP - as were Gore and Kerry - and she is doing that herself. So, does she think Obama really is an elitist, or is she just expressing "concern" that the GOP would paint him as an elitist? It's clearly a clumsy attempt to pander to the superdelegates by dishing out the same crap the GOP does.

With the death of Freedom's Watch, and McCain's obvious distaste for Rovian politics, I'm beginning to think that Obama is actually facing far worse slime from Hillary Clinton than he will get from John McCain. But that's what sparring partners are for, I guess.

by elrod on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:01:07 AM EST

Re: Clinton Begs Gore to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

So looking in the party mirror is wrong? She was just saying "Large segments of the electorate concluded that they did not really understand, or relate to, or respect their ways of life" and she is talking about how THEY SAW IT, not how it really was. But in politics, perception is reality, which is votes. Did the GOP voters get mad, when people talked about how GHW Bush and Bob Dole both came of ass wooden, and uncaring about people? They got GW Bush, who came off the opposite, and got close enough to steal the election.

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 02:37:32 AM EST

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Gore endorsed Howard Dean lol bring him on!

by rossinatl on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 05:27:52 AM EST

Gore won, but quit; Hillary is not a quitter (none / 0)

If Gore will endorse Obama he will lose many supporters - me included and I sent him a lot of money in 2000.
His cause is non-partizan; it will be against his own interests to endorse anybody unless he wants to be the president of USA.
I doubt that Gore wants to endorse somebody with BitterGate, WrightGate and RezkoGate on his hands.
And finally, last time Gore endorsed somebody (Dean), endorsee went to be a loser.

Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties

by engels on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 07:07:51 AM EST

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What? Hillary's just speaking truth to power :)

The bottom line is--no matter how they were really were--the perception when normal Americans saw Kerry windsurfing off the coast of Cape Cod and making comments like "I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it" made him look out of touch. Same for Gore. It's not a GOP talking point if it's the truth.

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 09:39:24 AM EST

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Exactly. And it is the same impression people have of Obama talking and laughing about small town america while on billionare's row in San Fran.

by americanincanada on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 11:55:11 AM EST
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Waaah...Hillary understands why we lost in 2000 and 2004...waaaah...I don't want to learn from it...waaaah...Obama's not elitist, he's just right...

Oy.

No candidacy is more important than the right to vote.

by hornplayer on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 10:50:23 AM EST

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